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Honest Questions From a Simple Man.
This discussion follows on from last week's debate
about honesty. Here's the link, if you want to visit that first: http://stuartaken.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/is-copying-same-as-theft.html
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Theo: We'd reached the conclusion that you'd be
prepared to pay what you saw as a reasonable amount for things like CDs, DVDs
and books. But that it was acceptable to steal these objects if they were
overpriced.
Dave: I wouldn't put it like that.
Theo: How would you put it?
Dave: Look, if you feel you're being ripped off,
especially by a big organisation, you want to get your own back. It's natural,
isn't it?
Theo: So, what you're saying is that theft of small
items from large organisations that overcharge for the goods is a legitimate
activity?
Dave: Except I wouldn't call it theft.
Theo: So, we're looking at semantics here, are we?
Dave: No. That's just playing with words.
Theo: Well, I'm trying to understand. Tell me what
you'd call it, then we can move on.
Dave: It's redistribution, isn't it? Like Robin
Hood. He stole from the rich and gave it to the poor.
Theo: It's interesting that you still use the term
'stole' here but seem reluctant to use the same word for what we're discussing.
Dave: Yeah, well he redistributed wealth by taking things
from the rich and giving them to the poor.
Theo: And these things he took were essential to the
welfare of those he gave them to?
Dave: It was money mostly, and jewellery they could
sell. Hell, these people were starving and the fat cats were taking more and
more in taxes from them, so they could live in luxury.
Theo: So, this mythical act of redistribution was to
do with inequality in society, where the differential in wealth was so great
that those on the bottom were starving and those at the top were living lives
of excess?
Dave: That's right. Social engineering, they call
it.
Theo: Okay. I can see the justice and fairness in
such a scheme. When authority won't do a job for society, society needs to do
the job itself. And that seems perfectly fine when we're talking of the
necessities of life. It starts to seem like envy, however, if we apply the same
rule to things that aren't essential. We all need food, heat, shelter, etc., to
live a reasonable life. But we don't actually 'need' the items we've been discussing.
These things are extras; 'wants' rather than 'needs'. Would you agree?
Dave: If you put it like that…
Theo: Your argument is based on price, which you see
as unfair. If we extend it logically, you could use the same argument to justify
stealing someone's Lamborghini, because it's an expensive car as opposed you
your own hatchback. Would you steal a car for that reason?
Dave: Of course not.
Theo: So, we come back to where you set the level
for what you see as acceptable taking without paying. And I think we've already
covered that ground and found that it's a subjective decision based on personal
judgements about the perceived value of the object coupled with personal
income. So, a book sold for £10.00 ($15.84) might be okay for many people but
one sold for £20.00 ($31.68), especially in digital form, might be considered
overpriced?
Dave: Like I said, it's a rip off. It costs almost
nothing to produce a digital book, once the thing's been written.
Theo: Again, that's a subjective judgement. And, in
any case, you're not paying only for the object itself, but for the time it
takes for that object to be created. Let me tell you about writing as a
profession. The average novel in the UK sells fewer than 2,000 copies. The
author gets around 10% in royalties. That means that for a book that sells for £10.00,
the author might make a total of £2,000.00. Most novels take around one to two
years to complete. That's just for the actual writing. Of course, the process
starts a long time before the writing does, since a novel is often the
condensation of a lifetime's experiences. I have to ask whether you'd be
prepared to have your time valued at the pittance the author receives. I mean,
do the maths. I think you'll find that this overpaid artist is getting less
than £1.00 ($1.58) per hour for his time. Not what I'd call a huge return,
would you? Even the book priced at £20.00 earns him only £2.00 ($3.17) per
hour.
Dave: Well, what about authors like J.K.Rowling;
they earn millions.
Theo: For every best-seller, there are thousands who
sell only a few hundred copies, if they're lucky.
Dave: They should write better books, then.
Theo: You'd like your choice to be reduced to only
those books that everyone wants to read? You'd like a diet of the same all the time,
would you? Just because something isn't as popular as something else, it
doesn't render it less valuable, just less marketable, which is a different
thing. We all have, amongst our collections, works by what are called 'niche'
artists, and they often prove to be our favourite pieces, even though they've
never reached the notice of the more general population.
Dave: As long as it's easy to copy digital stuff,
it'll be copied without paying for it.
Theo: So, because it's possible, it's acceptable, is
it?
Dave: It's going to happen. Get used to it.
Theo: It's possible to kill with a knife. Does that
make murder acceptable? It's possible to duplicate almost everything with
modern technology. Piracy exists across the board in manufactured goods.
Usually the pirated goods are made by what amounts to slave labour in
developing countries and the industry often supports terrorists and criminal
gangs. The attitude that piracy is not only acceptable but should be encouraged
is responsible for financing the worst type of criminal and terrorist activity.
That must make the purchasers of such goods so proud.
Dave: That's not the same thing.
Theo: Looks very much like it to me. And what are
the consequences of pirating on those who produce the original works? The
really talented, the brightest stars, will find different fields, somewhere
they can operate and be properly paid for their efforts and the original field
will be impoverished as a result. Simply because some people are unwilling to
pay a reasonable price for something because they perceive it as being too
expensive when provided in a digital medium, which they can easily access. The
argument that it's easy to make and reproduce isn't a justification for theft.
Any more than the profiteering by the industry giants is justified. What we
need is a more mature and honest appraisal of the reality of the situation. We
need the pirates to be honest about their activities, to accept that they're
taking the bread from the mouths of those who create. And we need the large
distributors to accept that they must re-examine their attitude to the sale of
such items. But, in the meantime, the people who suffer as a result of the
actions of both sides are the creators of the very things that both sides
value. Doesn't look like justice or fairness to me, and those amongst the
piracy clan who claim to be doing society a favour should perhaps examine their
motives a little more closely, don't you think?
Dave: So you're saying I should pay for every CD,
DVD or book I want?
Theo: It's always all or nothing, isn't it? How about
a compromise? We all share things we enjoy, and that's a great thing. No author
minds his readers lending or even giving away the books they've bought to
friends, etc. No author objects to the resale of second hand books. This is all
perfectly normal. What isn't acceptable is the mass sharing and redistribution
of free copies on those file-sharing sites that enable such activity. On that
level, the whole idea of sharing simply becomes mass theft. You'd be perfectly
happy to share your evening meal with a friend or two who popped in
unexpectedly, but you'd be a little miffed if the whole neighbourhood suddenly
descended on you and expected to be fed, wouldn't you? That's the difference
between personal sharing and the sharing that happens in the digital
file-sharing community. And, no matter how they dress it up, how they distort
the reality to justify their activities, they are acting as thieves and
stealing from the very people whose work they admire and desire. No matter how
you dress it up; taking something that's offered for sale and not paying for it
is theft.
Dave; You're a hard man, Theo.
Theo: I hope I'm simply a fair man, Dave. Fair and
honest.
What do you think? I'd value your opinions. I've
been involved in discussions like this with those who think they're some sort of
latter day Robin Hoods. Here's a link to one such discussion, if you're
interested in further thoughts from both sides of the argument: http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/american_isps_to_launch_massive_copyright_spying_scheme_on_july_12_the_raw_story
This is the last in the current series of ethical
discussions, as they're too time-consuming to allow me to do the real work of
writing. But I intend to return to the idea in the future. Let me know what you
think. I really do value your input and ideas.
5 comments:
I've had this conversation before. Often the 'piracy advocates' just shrugs their shoulders with the intention to continue anyway. Another factor is because they believe there won't be any consequences for the action.
It's what we do when nobody is looking that tells the most about us.
Good Article, but I'm surprised you found a pirate willing to speak with you for so long. I agree with Terry, most of them just get mad at the first sign of disapproval. Look at the reactions to SOPA/ACTA/PIPA. The legislation might have had flaws, but those flaws were blown WAY out of proportion and a huge surge of people responded angrily to the suggestion that the "Free Stuff" might be threatened.
It's a bit like the last days of Rome. Keep the wind and circus running, maybe the hairless apes won't burn it all down for another day.
It's quite astounding the lengths to which the pirates will go to deny the reality of what they do, Terry and Anon. They're in constant denial of the truth about their activity and seem to want to justify it entirely on the grounds that because it can be done, it should be done. Talk about being morally bankrupt, eh?
As for the 'pirate' I spoke to; just my alter ego presented as one character to present the argument. Theo is another side of me. Do you think I might be suffering from multi-personality syndrome? Still, as an author, I feel I should try to get right inside my characters!
Stuart, you'll know there's a problem if you start pirating your own works ;)
But which of my many personalities should I use, Terry? I mean, I might get into a fight with myself and do myself an injury.
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